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Re: Just being Honest....

from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Well it depends on which gears I'm talking about. If it's just your interest in JADE or why and how you are motivated, then it's very possible.
No way is it possible. And why would you care about my interest in JADE specifically? I don't believe you'd bother with me in the least if it was just my interest in them.

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the written word also holds it's share of information, both intended and not.
True. But what one takes from it might not be what one was given. Does that make sense?

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Gleaning anything from my writing?
You tell me.
You do have your tastes (and appitites), don't you.
Don't you?

Anyone who's read I HeArTE JADE and paid a smidgen of attention would know my preferences. The one JADE guy I describe as hot is in his 50s -- swoon! -- and their other officers I've declared sexy are every bit over 40.

You've already proven you think you know how to manipulate me. ;)
I've heard it as, "Old enough to know how, still young enough to get it done."
When put that way, there's a sexual implication. My way lacks that meaning, I think (I hope).
Re-gifted.... Funny.... I've always said....I wouldn't mind being shared.
Oh my. I'm not even gonna touch that one.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....

I am now roughly 3k farther west than I was this morning... my body
thinks it's midnight but the clock says otherwise.

Airline traval sucks. I remember when it was actually fun.

Anyway.... we continue....

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM, TF JADE wrote:
No way is it possible. And why would you care about my interest in JADE specifically? I don't believe you'd bother with me in the least if it was just my interest in them.
Ok, we might have to start over then. I actually do not have any other motivation than finding out why. Now I'll grant you that I see someone who is smarter than the average bear (kindred spirits so to speak) but I have no untoward motives. If there were any, what could they be?

(edit: ok after looking over this I may have to change my tune....It started out as wondering why you do what you do.... but I'm strangely enjoying the back and forth. Things could evolved I guess...)
True. But what one takes from it might not be what one was giving. Does that make sense?
that makes perfect sense. It's terribly easy to be miss understood talking with someone in person. It's even more so when "speaking" like this. I try to be very careful both in sending and receiving.
Gleaning anything from my writing?

You tell me.
Why the question for a question? I'm interested in what YOU think, not what I think.
You do have your tastes (and appetites), don't you.

Don't you?
And that was not a question. It was a statement of fact... Just letting on that I have read and do think I know a few things about you.
You've already proven you think you know how to manipulate me. ;)
Manipulate? ME? noooooo. At least not in any way that you would not like. A little friendly chit chat... give and take yes. But I'm not the manipulative type.... at least not with someone I consider my intellectually equal or even better. Some of the morons I have to work with... that's another matter... sometimes I manipulate them for their own good.
When put that way, there's a sexual implication. My way lacks that meaning, I think (I hope).
I'll have to go back and look but I think you are correct. Mine is all inclusive. Counts for not only sexuality but other things.... like properly driving a nail or changing the tire on your motorcycle
etc.
Oh my. I'm not even gonna touch that one.
You started it.

:)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
I am now roughly 3k farther west than I was this morning... my body thinks it's midnight but the clock says otherwise.
I have to do a little traveling myself today, 'bout 200 miles worth. All because an officer called me fat! What do you make of that?

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Ok, we might have to start over then. I actually do not have any other motivation than finding out why. Now I'll grant you that I see someone who is smarter than the average bear (kindred spirits so to speak) but I have no untoward motives. If there were any, what could they be?
One motive could be to leave me dead in a field with a bullet hole in my head thus ending my reign as a JADEist. Not likely; but you didn't ask for likely, you asked for "could."
(edit: ok after looking over this I may have to change my tune....It started out as wondering why you do what you do.... but I'm strangely enjoying the back and forth.
Verbal volley I am good at. I am even better at one-liners but that's more of a you-have-to-experience-it-in-person thing.

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Why the question for a question? I'm interested in what YOU think, not what I think.
All right then; if you really want to know, I believe I've harvested a significant enough amount of information from your writing.
And that was not a question. It was a statement of fact... Just letting on that I have read and do think I know a few things about you.
If all you have to judge me by is my web site then I venture to say you don't know much and most of what you think you know about me is wrong. I say that not with defiance, but with a melancholic sigh at the end.
Manipulate? ME? noooooo. At least not in any way that you would not like. A little friendly chit chat... give and take yes. But I'm not the manipulative type....
Likable manipulation, huh? How very chiropractical.
at least not with someone I consider my intellectually equal or even better.
Thrilled to know you find me on par with someone so bright.
Some of the morons I have to work with... that's another matter... sometimes I manipulate them for their own good.
It never ceases to amaze me the contempt policemen have for people they work with. Do you ever wonder if your associates put you in their "moron" category?

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You started it.
Nuh-uh. 'Twas you, with all your winks and flirtatious talk of... cats.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM, TF JADE wrote:
I have to do a little traveling myself today, 'bout 200 miles worth. All because an officer called me fat! What do you make of that?
what's the story there? And how rude of him to mention such a thing... I thought all those southern boys were brought up better than that.
One motive could be to leave me dead in a field with a bullet hole in my head thus ending my reign as a JADEist. Not likely; but you didn't ask for likely, you asked for "could."
Nothing could be farther from my thoughts. I'm surprised you took it that far in your mind but then again I see your point about perspectives.

Truth is... myself and the guys I work with have protected more peoples rights than anyone would realize. We regularly get requests that we have to point the requester down the proper path because what they want to do is not proper. There are some good guys yanno.

As for your case... I've had to argue your side before in the area of first amendment rights and what they can or can not do about you. Never in an official capacity mind you. Just kicking it around in the office kind of thing. In other words.... I'm not on your case (in any manner).

This contact and communication is totally personal and out of my curiosity.
Verbal volley I am good at. I am even better at one-liners but that's more of a you-have-to-experience-it-in-person thing.
I understand... nothing beats in person for conversation... (Notice I'm being more careful to qualify)
All right then; if you really want to know, I believe I've harvested a significant enough amount of information from your writing.
Such as.... ????
If all you have to judge me by is my web site then I venture to say you don't know much and most of what you think you know about me is wrong. I say that not with defiance, but with a melancholic sigh at the end.
I'm not judging you but I can make a few careful observations about what your personality might be like. For instance it was clear that you like the more mature guys... I also infer a healthy sex drive... nothing wrong with that.... there are very few ways to interpret "yum" and some of the other things you've said on your site other than a healthy interested in that which interests you. It is one of our primary drives.
Thrilled to know you find me on par with someone so bright.
Me so bright? I don't actually think I'm the sharpest knife. I'm not even sure that I'm actually keeping up with you, but it's fun trying.
It never ceases to amaze me the contempt policemen have for people they work with. Do you ever wonder if your associates put you in their "moron" category?
No they don't. I'm the answer guy. They would call me other things but moron is not one of them.
Nuh-uh. 'Twas you, with all your winks and flirtatious talk of... cats.
Flirtation??? ME?? Nope.. not me.

I'm SUPER polite... that side of me only comes out if it's provoked (and provoked not in a bad sense). It only comes out when engaged with someone of a like mind and who understands it.

That part of me is always bubbling under the surface so with the right person I'm always double entendre etc. Some would say "typical male" except that I'm very good at suppressing it when it's not appropriate.

All I think I said was somehting about a cat playing with a bug..... what's flirty about that?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:08 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....

Good gawd. I fell asleep at 2AM, got up at 5AM. I've been in five different counties, two different courts, taken pictures of police, did some genuine sleuthing, hiked for dang near three hours in freezing rain, met with two people, drove a gazillion miles, and sporadically worked on this reply to you. So if you find flaws, I apol... ah, screw it, I don't really care. ;)

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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what's the story there?
I got a ticket for "failure to obey highway sign." Later I noticed the officer had written "150" under weight then crossed it out and wrote "140." Even if I strapped two twenty pound bags of cat food to my hips, I still wouldn't weigh 150!

I have an awesome and, I think, hilarious defense planned, which I will now play out in April since today the (absent) officer requested a continuance. I won't win -- Judges nearly never go against the testimony of a policeman, as I'm sure you're aware -- but I cannot pass up such a fabulous opportunity to have some fun in a courtroom.

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Nothing could be farther from my thoughts. I'm surprised you took it that far in your mind but then again I see your point about perspectives.
I was mostly laying on the drama but, seriously, I have gotten some explicit and graphic threats over this I HeArTE JADE stuff.
Truth is... myself and the guys I work with have protected more peoples rights than anyone would realize. We regularly get requests that we have to point the requester down the proper path because what they want to do is not proper.
Ho-hum. Everyone thinks their cause is noble.
There are some good guys yanno.
Ino.
As for your case... I've had to argue your side before in the area of first amendment rights and what they can or can not do about you. Never in an official capacity mind you. Just kicking it around in the office kind of thing. In other words.... I'm not on your case (in any manner).
Nobody knows my side. You might've argued for rights in general though, and used me as an excuse, I'll give you that.
This contact and communication is totally personal and out of my curiosity.
Not what you expected, is it?
I understand... nothing beats in person for conversation... (Notice I'm being more careful to qualify)
Unnecessary. Save your carefulness for someone who matters.
All right then; if you really want to know, I believe I've harvested a significant enough amount of information from your writing.

Such as.... ????
I'm sorry, sir, that information is classified.
I'm not judging you but I can make a few careful observations about what your personality might be like. For instance it was clear that you like the more mature guys... I also infer a healthy sex drive... nothing wrong with that.... there are very few ways to interpret "yum" and some of the other things you've said on your site other than a healthy interested in that which interests you. It is one of our primary drives.
Your inference about my sex drive would be incorrect. I guess it's safe to say a traumatic event pretty much eradicated my interest in sex. That doesn't mean I don't find certain men attractive -- obviously. And I do know how to be sexual. But I'd take intellectual stimulation over physical contact any day.

Probably way more than you wanted to know. Hahaha...
Me so bright? I don't actually think I'm the sharpest knife. I'm not even sure that I'm actually keeping up with you, but it's fun trying.
Fun for you and me both then.
No they don't. I'm the answer guy. They would call me other things but moron is not one of them.
Care to explain why you're the answer guy?
Flirtation??? ME?? Nope.. not me.

I'm SUPER polite... that side of me only comes out if it's provoked (and provoked not in a bad sense). It only comes out when engaged with someone of a like mind and who understands it.

That part of me is always bubbling under the surface so with the right person I'm always double entendre etc. Some would say "typical male" except that I'm very good at suppressing it when it's not appropriate.
Sheesh! Talk about your mixed signals. I bet you confuse all the girls.
All I think I said was somehting about a cat playing with a bug..... what's flirty about that?
Hell if I know; it's your metaphor.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:43 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Good gawd. I fell asleep at 2AM, got up at 5AM. I've been in five different counties, two different courts, taken pictures of police, did some genuine sleuthing, hiked for dang near three hours in freezing rain, met with two people, drove a gazillion miles, and sporadically worked on this reply to you. So if you find flaws, I apol... ah, screw it, I don't really care. ;)
Oh don't worry.... I read typo... Heck... I've made a few whoppers myself.

Pictures huh.... I guess I have to check the blog again....
I got a ticket for "failure to obey highway sign." Later I noticed the officer had written "150" under weight then crossed it out and wrote "140." Even if I strapped two twenty pound bags of cat food to my hips, I still wouldn't weigh 150!
What was the sign?

yep.. it's kinda tough... the newer DL doesn't have descriptors on it so the boys have to guess.... I can see how that would be a problem
I have an awesome and, I think, hilarious defense planned, which I will now play out in April since today the (absent) officer requested a continuance. I won't win -- Judges nearly never go against the testimony of a policeman, as I'm sure you're aware -- but I cannot pass up such a fabulous opportunity to have some fun in a courtroom.
Do tell??? That's why I asked what the sign was. There are very few of them that are worthy of a ticket most times....
I was mostly laying on the drama but, seriously, I have gotten some explicit and graphic threats over this I HeArTE JADE stuff.
Yanno... to be honest.... I'm surprised but then again... thinking about some of the cops I've met in the past.... well... I shoulda known.

I try, in all my online dealings, to be and say pretty much what I'd do in person. I don't see a reason to not be polite even if it is a situation where you are totally anonymous. That anonymity is bringing out the worst in some people.
Ho-hum. Everyone thinks their cause is noble.
Ok some of us have to hang our had somewhere. I'll not be shy about the fact that in my job I have prevented an innocent person from being charged with a serous crime because some cops just KNEW he was guilty as sin..... turned out not to be the case.
Ino.
Yes.
Nobody knows my side. You might've argued for rights in general though, and used me as an excuse, I'll give you that.
NO one knows? And yes I agree... I don't know your motivation but I've had to point out that you can do most of what you have been doing.
Not what you expected, is it?
Actually I'm not sure about that. Thinking back, I'm not sure what I expected.
Unnecessary. Save your carefulness for someone who matters.
Nah... I can't help it.
I'm sorry, sir, that information is classified.
Yes Ma'am. I have figured out that I don't have the proper clearances.
Your inference about my sex drive would be incorrect. I guess it's safe to say a traumatic event pretty much eradicated my interest in sex. That doesn't mean I don't find certain men attractive -- obviously. And I do know how to be sexual. But I'd take intellectual stimulation over physical contact any day.
Ah.... well that just goes to show you what partial information and biases will do to someones thinking. I stand corrected and understand what you are saying.
Probably way more than you wanted to know. Hahaha...
Nah... Most times when I find someone interesting there's not usually a TMI point until WAY past boring folk's point.
Sheesh! Talk about your mixed signals. I bet you confuse all the girls.
Nope... I usually err on the side of caution and keep it to myself. I don't let it out unless it's "proper."
Hell if I know; it's your metaphor.
Good point.