to TF JADE
date Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM
subject ... Honest....
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, TF JADE wrote:
STOPDidja?
Is it bringing out the worst or just showing how they really are?Good point. I'll have to mull that one over.
Look, I know there are good officers. I know there are deceptive, vindictive, foul ones, too. I also know that those in Law Enforcement have a habit of crooning the former and denying the latter. If y'all do admit there are bad ones, it's almost always in a vague, generic, sort of way.Not always... In fact I was pointing out to someone yesterday that in the LE community you have a microcosm of society. You have drunks, child molesters, thieves wife/husband beaters etc.
We do try to weed them out before they get on the job but that's always going to be an imperfect prospect.
We all know a fair number of "us" that we'd get rid of in a heart murmer if we could.... unfortunately we have to wait till they show their colors to take care of it.
I'm happy to say I've been on the active end of a few of those.
Well, aside from me no one does.And it's classified.... Don't feel like getting it off your chest either huh?
Oh. Come. On. By your own admission you first used an irregular email address to contact me in anticipation of me being "nasty." Anyhow, forget what you expected, the question is what do you hope to achieve by our communication now?Hmmmm.... it's very interesting to "see" myself through someone Else's eyes. I guess I see your point that I may have already had a bias but then again... as usual with me... I was leaving it open to NOT be ugly.
Quick learner -- impressive!In some things I hope I'm above average. At least I try.
[...]Is this something that is mentioned in the blog? If so I must have missed it. I'll have to go look.
But surely none of that interests you, so I'll shut up about it now.
Game over?You mean the cat metaphor? Yes I think we've clawed that one to death.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
Didja?The officer says I didn't; that's all that matters. 'Til the Judge concurs with the officer, then that'll be all that matters. Hahaha... I crack me up.
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We all know a fair number of "us" that we'd get rid of in a heart murmer if we could.... unfortunately we have to wait till they show their colors to take care of it.If that's true, why do y'all turn on anyone who dares point out the rotten one? Why do you (collectively) make it so that the good guys "know better" than to speak up? Keep in mind I'm not some ignorant twit; I may not be a cop with firsthand experience, but I've gotten a hell of a lot closer look at the profession than the average person -- and I don't just mean the JADE stuff.
I'm happy to say I've been on the active end of a few of those.Expound, please?
And it's classified.... Don't feel like getting it off your chest either huh?Naw, that one's not classified. I've just given up explaining it.
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Hmmmm.... it's very interesting to "see" myself through someone Else's eyes.Wasn't necessarily how I do see you, more how it could look.
I guess I see your point that I may have already had a bias but then again... as usual with me... I was leaving it open to NOT be ugly.(Don't take this the wrong way, but) Then maybe you are like me. An optimistic pessimist! Just because you have an umbrella handy on a clear day doesn't mean you don't hope the sun will shine.
In some things I hope I'm above average. At least I try.Tsk, tsk. That does not exude self-confidence.
Here's mine for me: Everything I'm good at nobody wants me for.
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You mean the cat metaphor? Yes I think we've clawed that one to death.Eight lives left.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
Oops.. it was my turn wasn't it.
I've been on the couch for the past three days with one of those really crappy sinus infections ... (I know.. TMI, righ?)
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM, TF JADE wrote:
Expound, please?You mean getting rid of the bad apples? Well... Because of what I do... I've gotten to assist in criminal and administrative investigations. Some of these people are gone now.
I've also saved a few guys in that, while things looked a little hinky, there turned out to be an explanation that cleared the guy.
Naw, that one's not classified. I've just given up explaining it.Why don't you try one more time? I'm a little more understanding than both most cops and men in general.
(Yes.. I'm different... but not in the short bus way ;) )
Wasn't necessarily how I do see you, more how it could look.Well we only have our own perceptions to go on. Even that which is described to us by someone else is still colored by their perceptions.. Heck... you could hurt your head talking about what is
real and what is perceived etc...
(Don't take this the wrong way, but) Then maybe you are like me. An optimistic pessimist! Just because you have an umbrella handy on a clear day doesn't mean you don't hope the sun will shine.Oh I fully understand. I always plan for the worst but I don't let that planning get in the way of getting other things done or life etc. It's like rock climbing... you safety up but if things go correctly, you never use the seat/rope.
Tsk, tsk. That does not exude self-confidence.Actually it does. I'm happy with my self that I make the effort. Remember Teddy Roosevelt's words about being "in the arena" it's not just about being there and competition... it's also about being aware and willing.
Here's mine for me: Everything I'm good at nobody wants me for.Interesting.... As I consider whatever my next gig will be.... I wonder also... I don't have a proper "trade"... I don't know if anyone will pay me for the things I'm good at.
Eight lives left.touche
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
Oops.. it was my turn wasn't it.I'm surprised you've hung on this long.
I've been on the couch for the past three days with one of those really crappy sinus infections ...:(
(I know.. TMI, righ?)When you're writing to someone who thrives on information, there's no such thing as "too much."
Why don't you try one more time?Uhhhck. For what possible reason?
I'm a little more understanding than both most cops and men in general.Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, I'm sure.
Tell ya what, you get to know me well enough to meet in person one day and I'll lay out the whole nine yards -- and then some -- for you. That's a perfectly fair offer, isn't it? ;)
(Yes.. I'm different... but not in the short bus way ;) )You are witty. Self-aware. Focused and persistent. Polite. Likable. But different? Nothing I've seen so far is indicative of that.
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It's like rock climbing... you safety up but if things go correctly, you never use the seat/rope.Is rock climbing a frequent activity of yours?
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Interesting.... As I consider whatever my next gig will be.... I wonder also... I don't have a proper "trade"... I don't know if anyone will pay me for the things I'm good at.[...]
Someone with a background in Law Enforcement is pretty much an automatic hire in any field.
Hmm...
What exactly are you good at?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, TF JADE wrote:
I'm surprised you've hung on this long.Why? You don't think you are entertaining?
When you're writing to someone who thrives on information, there's no such thing as "too much."Interesting.... An info junkie... always needing input huh? I can relate.... sometimes I can't sleep for not being able to shut the brain off.
Uhhhck. For what possible reason?Dunno.... might help to talk about it .... getting another opinion (not saying that you NEED one)....
Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, I'm sure.cynic. :P
You are witty. Self-aware. Focused and persistent. Polite. Likable. But different? Nothing I've seen so far is indicative of that.I'm not different??? Tell the truth... are any of your emails from possible/probable law enforcement types as polite and entertaining as mine? If there's someone else out there like me, I'd sure like to know it because I sure do feel like an odd duck most of the time. (and that goes for both as a male and as a cop)
Is rock climbing a frequent activity of yours?Was.... I used to live close enough to a gym where I'd go about twice a week. Had to move farther out and the drive is a pain. I want to get back to it though.
Someone with a background in Law Enforcement is pretty much an automatic hire in any field.Um... nope.... Well... not in any field I'd find interesting.... plus, I have a tough time working for morons. It's like the old Groucho joke... "I'd not be a member of any club that would have
me...." I'm to picky.. I doubt I'd like any job that would "just" hire me.
What exactly are you good at?Moi??? Soaking up information.... making it understandable ....(I enjoy teaching)... I'm hoping to get some type of teaching gig when retirement time comes... I love watching someone get the "light bulb" moment when a concept they previously struggled over becomes clear.
That's the work related stuff.....
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:13 PM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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You don't think you are entertaining?I could think I'm entertaining, I might actually be entertaining, but either are irrelevant. It's a matter of the length of time any given person can concentrate on any given subject or activity. Since I believe most people have the attention span of a baked biscuit -- even when it comes to things they absolutely find entertaining, or interesting, appealing, and so forth -- I expected your recipe would have the same ingredients, so to speak. Still do.
Interesting.... An info junkie... always needing input huh? I can relate.... sometimes I can't sleep for not being able to shut the brain off.You know that movie Short Circuit, from the 80s -- it's got that robot that comes to life and zealously runs around soaking up information about everything while repeating the word "input"? I'm always saying I am totally like that freakin' robot.
Dunno.... might help to talk about it ....Might "help"? "Help" what? "Help" who?
getting another opinion (not saying that you NEED one)....Well, sweetheart, looks to me like you already gave your opinion. I'm not even holding it against you. Hahaha...
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I'm not different???Three question marks? Yowsers!
Why why WHY are you so bent on being different? And it's as if... you find yourself different and you're proud of it, like it's sacred, or honorable, or... something. That's another reason I'd dispute your one-of-a-kindness. Those whom are unique -- truly genuinely deeply unique -- know that being different SUCKS.
Tell the truth... are any of your emails from possible/probable law enforcement types as polite and entertaining as mine?Truthfully: yes. Plus they keep in touch frequenter than you've. So there!
If there's someone else out there like me, I'd sure like to know it because I sure do feel like an odd duck most of the time. (and that goes for both as a male and as a cop)You feel like an odd duck most of the time. You mean just like practically everybody else does? ;)
Hell, you may very well be wildly unusual; I'm just sayin' I don't see it. Seriously, what is it you do that others don't do? Or don't that others do? Enlighten me.
Was.... I used to live close enough to a gym where I'd go about twice a week. Had to move farther out and the drive is a pain. I want to get back to it though.Physical activity is awesomesauce.
Thanks to my estranged husband, I myself will likely never set foot inside a gym again, however, I'd highly recommend to anyone else to join or rejoin one. I consider myself lucky that my, uh, extracurriculars with Law Enforcement pretty much meet my extreme sports needs.
Um... nope.... Well... not in any field I'd find interesting.... plus, I have a tough time working for morons. It's like the old Groucho joke... "I'd not be a member of any club that would have me...." I'm to picky.. I doubt I'd like any job that would "just" hire me.I didn't mean any ol' job; I meant quite the opposite. With a history of the badge under your belt you'll have your pick of work -- whatever you choose. "I was a cop" are powerful words.
Moi??? Soaking up information.... making it understandable ....(I enjoy teaching)... I'm hoping to get some type of teaching gig when retirement time comes... I love watching someone get the "light bulb" moment when a concept they previously struggled over becomes clear.And the fun stuff...? That is, aside from stepping into a sideshow to get up close views of the freak.
That's the work related stuff.....
