to TF JADE
date Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:20 PM
subject For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Code sez.....: 46.2-888. Stopping on highways; general rule. No person shall stop a vehicle in such manner as to impede or render dangerous the use of the highway by others, except in the case of an emergency, an accident, or a mechanical breakdown.
Now... I think you said you have a lawyer for this one but still
"as to impede"... In other words.. someone had to stop behind you.... "render dangerous"...... 'twas on a curve or some such where someone coming upon you wouldn't be able to stop in time to avoid hitting you (for example).
I think between... "He TOLD me to stop, and "No other cars were effected" (If that's the case....can you remember any other cars around....?) I think you can beat this one.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:36 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:20 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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I think between... "He TOLD me to stop, and "No other cars were effected" (If that's the case....can you remember any other cars around....?) I think you can beat this one.So I didn't win.
But I didn't lose either.
Basically, the event, the pictures, and the experience, cost me 61 bucks.
I haven't yet decided if it was worth it.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:38 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
He lied. :(
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:52 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:38 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
He lied. :(He did to some extent but mostly he manipulated a couple of fibs.
He stated I was already stopped. He also stated, repeatedly, that his main priority was to get me off the road.
I had a ton of of pictures ready showing the area, the audio recorder plus other items blatantly on display in my hand to let him know if he said anything I could disprove, I would rake him over the coals. I couldn't pin him down; he was admirably careful. I did get the sense, though, he might've realized he'd met his match with me -- especially considering his activities on my site this morning. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:57 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
I hate this. This could be a case of testimony by "I think it was this way....". I've seen it before. He fucked up and convinced himself that you had stopped first, thus "not a lie."
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:59 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:57 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
I hate this. This could be a case of testimony by "I think it was this way....". I've seen it before. He fucked up and convinced himself that you had stopped first, thus "not a lie."I don't think that's the case. He knows he was lying about that.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:59 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Even worse then.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:02 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:59 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Even worse then.He really did not want me to play the audio; I got a kick out of that.
I may shoot for a complaint -- since he knows I have the audio and I now know he doesn't want to look like the jerk he is. I have to determine if it'd be $61 worth of grief for him. ;)
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Did you get him yelling at you to stop? Or at least him not contradicting you if you pointed out that he told you to stop?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:08 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Did you get him yelling at you to stop? Or at least him not contradicting you if you pointed out that he told you to stop?Yes, I got his screaming at me. Every time I brought up his anger about the picture-taking, he reiterated his intent was to move me off the highway -- the danger, and all that jazz. He did not deny that I stopped because of his shouting. Nor did he deny that I followed every order and instruction he gave to me during the encounter.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Might be worth a shot.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:12 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Might be worth a shot.It's only worth it if it chafes him, as he certainly won't be reprimanded for it.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:18 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
You'd be surprised. They are working one right now on someone because he gave to much advice of a very personal nature. The woman thought it inappropreate and complained.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:19 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:18 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
You'd be surprised. They are working one right now on someone because he gave to much advice of a very personal nature. The woman thought it inappropreate and complained.Can you give me one in which an officer was actually reprimanded? No? Didn't think so.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:22 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Personnel actions are confidential. I know they want to with this one. I'll never find out what happens though.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:24 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:22 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Personnel actions are confidential. I know they want to with this one. I'll never find out what happens though.True reprimands are noticeable -- demotions, time off, et cetera. Telling someone he's a naughty boy doesn't count.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Not so. The group notice I got no one Would know unless I told them. It does freeze you for promotion for a time though and that can be serious for some. Most important is that it is a matter of record. We have had guys let go because they repeatedly got complaints.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:32 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
FOIA the Dept and they will give up all the numbers. To keep accreditation they have to keep the stats. Might even be on the web site. I'll have to look.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:33 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:32 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
FOIA the Dept and they will give up all the numbers. To keep accreditation they have to keep the stats. Might even be on the web site. I'll have to look.That'd be nifty for me to check out. I never thought of it before.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:35 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
They publish it internally every once and a while. I'll try to remember to look it up when I go back.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:45 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:35 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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I'll try to remember to look it up when I go back.Where are you?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Naked on my bed again. Thus the reason I was going to tease you.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:54 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Naked on my bed again. Thus the reason I was going to tease you.Mmmm... thanks for the visual. ;)
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Extrapolating?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:57 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Extrapolating?Some "ing" word, I'm sure.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:01 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Suuuuuurrrrrre. :P
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:10 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:01 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Suuuuuurrrrrre. :PYou doubt me?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:41 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Seeing is beliving.... ;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:07 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
How did we get from a Virginia Code to this?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:09 PM
subject Re: For you to digest later.. no need to mess with this just now: Stopping on a highway
Just natural with some people ;)
