Just being Honest....
from D J
to TFJADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:54 AM
subject Just being Honest....
What kind of car do you have?
Not being ugly or confrontational.... I just don't want my picture taken when I walk into one of the offices.
I just missed being in one of your pictures by not much once.
Just being honest.
:)
My Thoughts In Italics
I read the email and tilted my head to the right slightly. The clear implication was that it’d been sent by a member of Law Enforcement. In... ter... ressst... ing.
I’d received email from assorted so-called Boys in Blue before but mostly from the braggart types who, in some way, somewhere in the contact explicitly stated the profession they’re in -- as if their career alone made them extra special, and they wanted me to know it. This one, well, this one was… different.
For a moment I considered the possibility the missive was from some random generic person, someone who knew of my very unhidden affinity for cops, and he was merely amusing himself with a game of sorts. Still, there was just enough of an I-have-a-badge edge to it to make me believe it was indeed from an officer.
Prickles of excitement began to meld with the curiosity that was already assaulting me.
I reread the words again. Who is this guy?
I copied the unique address the electronic letter had come from and promptly plunked it into Google. Nothing. At all! That to me indicated, whoever the man was, he’d probably set up the Gmail account strictly for the purpose of this communication with me. I’ve learned it’s not uncommon for people when they do such to try to conceal their identities to stick with something near to what they’re already familiar with. So I ran queries on close versions of the term -- for example, substituting a “1” for a “one.” Got nowhere with that either. I went back to searching the original address in quotes but now under mail servers other than Gmail -- @yahoo.com, @hotmail.com, et cetera. I was both irritated and intrigued by the absolute lack of results those too produced. Next: same servers, previously-mentioned variations. No good. Last, I gave the name itself a shot; it was an unusual anonym, yet not so extraordinary it wouldn’t pull any information up. I included some narrowing specifics as well, like “Virginia,” “VA,” or “officer.” I scanned the multitude of potentials that, this time, the search engine offered. Figures, thirty zakillion pages and none seemed to fit what I was seeking. All right, fine; be that way.
There was only one feasible solution: with a big ol’ cheesy grin on my face, I, the graced recipient of an attention-getter, returned to my Inbox and clicked “Reply.”
I’d received email from assorted so-called Boys in Blue before but mostly from the braggart types who, in some way, somewhere in the contact explicitly stated the profession they’re in -- as if their career alone made them extra special, and they wanted me to know it. This one, well, this one was… different.
For a moment I considered the possibility the missive was from some random generic person, someone who knew of my very unhidden affinity for cops, and he was merely amusing himself with a game of sorts. Still, there was just enough of an I-have-a-badge edge to it to make me believe it was indeed from an officer.
Prickles of excitement began to meld with the curiosity that was already assaulting me.
I reread the words again. Who is this guy?
I copied the unique address the electronic letter had come from and promptly plunked it into Google. Nothing. At all! That to me indicated, whoever the man was, he’d probably set up the Gmail account strictly for the purpose of this communication with me. I’ve learned it’s not uncommon for people when they do such to try to conceal their identities to stick with something near to what they’re already familiar with. So I ran queries on close versions of the term -- for example, substituting a “1” for a “one.” Got nowhere with that either. I went back to searching the original address in quotes but now under mail servers other than Gmail -- @yahoo.com, @hotmail.com, et cetera. I was both irritated and intrigued by the absolute lack of results those too produced. Next: same servers, previously-mentioned variations. No good. Last, I gave the name itself a shot; it was an unusual anonym, yet not so extraordinary it wouldn’t pull any information up. I included some narrowing specifics as well, like “Virginia,” “VA,” or “officer.” I scanned the multitude of potentials that, this time, the search engine offered. Figures, thirty zakillion pages and none seemed to fit what I was seeking. All right, fine; be that way.
There was only one feasible solution: with a big ol’ cheesy grin on my face, I, the graced recipient of an attention-getter, returned to my Inbox and clicked “Reply.”
Re: Just being Honest....
from TF JADE
to D J
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:19 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:54 AM, D J wrote:
;)
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from D J
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:37 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Not part of me... but a spot where, some time not long before you took the picture, I'd been sitting right there...
Kinda gave me a queasy feeling. I'd have been readily identifiable to anyone who knows me.
Ok... Fair's fair... I'll just have to do the slow looping mobile stake out before I go to any of those offices.
I'll send you a copy of the picture if I capture ya.
Oh.. and I don't know what kind of car you have because I've not been up there lately (not my normal area)...
However.... next time I have to be up there, I'll give someone a call and find out what to look for.
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from TF JADE
to D J
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:22 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:37 PM, D J wrote:
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Ha! Cool.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Simple... There's a particular picture... of a very particular place....
I was parked in an area that, had I still been there when you snapped the picture.... My vehicle would have been almost square in the middle of the frame (depending on your crop of course). You'd have been able to see me sitting in it too.
Time is easy because I know what was going on and when.
Where have you gone (and photographed) recently that was out of the ordinary ....
;)
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Oh... and I got tired of the email relay.... (the other address[...]....
This is where I usually spend my days.... just to clear the confusion (if there was any)
I didn't want to use this email up front in case you turned out to be nasty (which you seem not to be.)
:)
to D J
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:19 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:54 AM, D J wrote:
What kind of car do you have?That's a risk you run by being in a public place.
Not being ugly or confrontational.... I just don't want my picture taken when I walk into one of the offices.
I just missed being in one of your pictures by not much once.Not sure how you concluded that. If it's because you recognized a part of yourself -- forearm, shirt, et cetera -- in a picture I put up, you should know I do crop some of the images prior to publishing them.
Just being honest.If you're an informant, or not a member of law enforcement, I'm not going to identify you on my site. If you're an officer, well, you'd already know what kind of car I have.
;)
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from D J
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:37 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Not part of me... but a spot where, some time not long before you took the picture, I'd been sitting right there...
Kinda gave me a queasy feeling. I'd have been readily identifiable to anyone who knows me.
Ok... Fair's fair... I'll just have to do the slow looping mobile stake out before I go to any of those offices.
I'll send you a copy of the picture if I capture ya.
Oh.. and I don't know what kind of car you have because I've not been up there lately (not my normal area)...
However.... next time I have to be up there, I'll give someone a call and find out what to look for.
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from TF JADE
to D J
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:22 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:37 PM, D J wrote:
Not part of me... but a spot where, some time not long before you took the picture, I'd been sitting right there...Hmm... Still don't get how you'd know that. It's not like I time-stamp photos. Mysterious.
[...]
I'll send you a copy of the picture if I capture ya.[...]
Ha! Cool.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Simple... There's a particular picture... of a very particular place....
I was parked in an area that, had I still been there when you snapped the picture.... My vehicle would have been almost square in the middle of the frame (depending on your crop of course). You'd have been able to see me sitting in it too.
Time is easy because I know what was going on and when.
Where have you gone (and photographed) recently that was out of the ordinary ....
;)
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Oh... and I got tired of the email relay.... (the other address[...]....
This is where I usually spend my days.... just to clear the confusion (if there was any)
I didn't want to use this email up front in case you turned out to be nasty (which you seem not to be.)
:)
Observation And Causation
According to the time-stamps, he’d sent the last couple of emails to me within a minute of each other. Before I even viewed the contents of the second one, I noticed immediately both the sender name and return address on the first one was different. Yay -- new things to search on! I read the latest -- where he acknowledged the changes and hinted this was his regular electronic communication home -- before directing my browser to my favorite engine. The anonym was, as I’d assumed previously, near to the original, but the address was nowhere remotely close to its former. Darnit. I was only half right in my guess.
Queries on Google yielded sparse results. If I were to go along with them, they implied I was corresponding with a middle-aged member of multiple adult entertainment sites who, at least in 2007, was looking for sexual partners for himself and his lady as a pair. Oh. God. This can’t be the same guy who wrote me. I was fairly confident the deviant and the fellow now in touch with me were not one and the same.
Although I hadn’t made any progress with the lookups, the fact was my mysterious stranger had already gotten comfortable enough with me to switch to contacting me with a personal email account he admitted he used more often. Good deal. The sign auspicated potential. I smiled at the thought.
Queries on Google yielded sparse results. If I were to go along with them, they implied I was corresponding with a middle-aged member of multiple adult entertainment sites who, at least in 2007, was looking for sexual partners for himself and his lady as a pair. Oh. God. This can’t be the same guy who wrote me. I was fairly confident the deviant and the fellow now in touch with me were not one and the same.
Although I hadn’t made any progress with the lookups, the fact was my mysterious stranger had already gotten comfortable enough with me to switch to contacting me with a personal email account he admitted he used more often. Good deal. The sign auspicated potential. I smiled at the thought.
Re: Just being Honest....
from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM, DJ Vox:
[...]
I guess, if there's any hope of me figuring out which event you're referring to, I should go back and look at recent posts on the site, yes?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
:)
from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
I agree about not needing to be nasty. I hated it when I'd approach people and they'd assume I was going to be an asshole.
I stopped a biker one night long ago because his taillight was out. He copped (ha) a serious attitude until I told him I was just concerned for his safety because you really couldn't see him from behind when there were no street lights. He actually apologized for being a jerk at first.
Yep.. if you look back a little, you'll see a few pictures where, had there been more vehicles parked around in the background (yes that's a hint) and had I not unassed the area soon before you got there... you'd have had me!
funny (about nasty) I hadn't thought about it that way but that other address is also my craigslist cutout. Thus anything nasty that shows up there (the spam bots are horrendous) stays there. I admit it... I slum there... but sometimes I REALLY feel like I need a shower after that.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Maybe.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:12 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Upon further reflection the implication is that you're VSP. Although if that's the case, why in hell would you risk emailing me? I'm thinking "mysterious" was an understatement.
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM, DJ Vox
Where have you gone (and photographed) recently that was out of the
ordinary ....
I guess, if there's any hope of me figuring out which event you're referring to, I should go back and look at recent posts on the site, yes?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM, DJ Vox
I didn't want to use this email up front in case you turned out to be
nasty (which you seem not to be.)
:)
from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
I agree about not needing to be nasty. I hated it when I'd approach people and they'd assume I was going to be an asshole.
I stopped a biker one night long ago because his taillight was out. He copped (ha) a serious attitude until I told him I was just concerned for his safety because you really couldn't see him from behind when there were no street lights. He actually apologized for being a jerk at first.
Yep.. if you look back a little, you'll see a few pictures where, had there been more vehicles parked around in the background (yes that's a hint) and had I not unassed the area soon before you got there... you'd have had me!
funny (about nasty) I hadn't thought about it that way but that other address is also my craigslist cutout. Thus anything nasty that shows up there (the spam bots are horrendous) stays there. I admit it... I slum there... but sometimes I REALLY feel like I need a shower after that.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Yep.. if you look back a little, you'll see a few pictures where, had there been more vehicles parked around in the background (yes that's a hint) and had I not unassed the area soon before you got there... you'd have had me!Based on the information you've provided, and the cursory research I've done, I've determined that you're just messin' with me.
Maybe.
funny (about nasty) I hadn't thought about it that way but that other address is also my craigslist cutout. Thus anything nasty that shows up there (the spam bots are horrendous) stays there. I admit it... I slum there... but sometimes I REALLY feel like I need a shower after that.With Axe body wash, I presume?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:12 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Upon further reflection the implication is that you're VSP. Although if that's the case, why in hell would you risk emailing me? I'm thinking "mysterious" was an understatement.
Fishing
The “further reflection” I mentioned to him? From the clues he’d provided in our exchanges so far, I’d thoroughly perused my I HeArTE JADE site looking for entries I’d made around the time frame he’d alluded to and the majority of them that also fit other things he’d indicated -- his being in Law Enforcement, “more vehicles parked around in the background,” “out of the ordinary” -- were Virginia State Police related. The most notable was a post of mine that contained no commentary but had several pictures I’d taken at a multiple-murder and big manhunt situation in Appomattox, VA. A substantial amount of VSP officers had been at it and it was a big mainstream news story, too, with loads of media present. I supposed since it was a stand-out event -- and likely would’ve been seen as such especially to anyone who’d been there in-person -- it had to be what he was referring to.
If nothing else, he was definitely forcing me to think. I had a feeling he’d, by studying I HeArTE JADE, ciphered out exactly the kind of game-playing that appealed to me and was purposely attempting to stimulate my mind to keep me attracted. I wondered what kind of man would make to so extreme a degree this clear effort; whatever sort, he’d absolutely hooked me. The question was: how much line would he give me before he’d finally try reeling me in?
If nothing else, he was definitely forcing me to think. I had a feeling he’d, by studying I HeArTE JADE, ciphered out exactly the kind of game-playing that appealed to me and was purposely attempting to stimulate my mind to keep me attracted. I wondered what kind of man would make to so extreme a degree this clear effort; whatever sort, he’d absolutely hooked me. The question was: how much line would he give me before he’d finally try reeling me in?
Re: Just being Honest....
from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
... no no no... that's nasty in itself... armani (but I don't use it much lately)
If you MUST know...... Appomattox.
Where's the risk? So color me curios? Heck.. If you tried hard you could probably find my IP address all over your web stats. (It do record IPs from visitors don't it?)
Who said mysterious? But truth be told.... I like being the strong silent mysterious type... Stealthy goes good with my personality (and work).
And while it may be true that now I am messing with you... that was not my initial intent... turns out you are fun to, and can take a little messing with.
No harm no foul right?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:13 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:33 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Armani cologne.... expensive when you consider it per ounce. I'd do His suits if I were made 'o money.
Who said you are the enemy? Are you? I'd not made that conclusion...
I am curious about what makes you tick.
I just don't know how long I can keep your attention in order to figure you... like a cat getting bored with a bug...
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:23 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:33 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Tell me something: what is it about nearly having your picture taken that bothers you?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:48 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:23 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Actually I don't dress that well for court but I do clean up ok and I do like being able to every once and a while.
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:20 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:48 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:36 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:20 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Know how to spot a cop in a crowded room? He's the idiot that's wearing a short sleeved shirt with a tie.
Lethal Weapon was a fantasy... but it has actually happened that nutcases have gone after cops at home and thus involved the family. For a beat cop, that's par .... his identity is out there. For others... not being common knowledge is part of what they do.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:36 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, TF JADE wrote:
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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By the way, tenth picture down:
http://iheartejade.blogspot.com/2010/01/wordless-wednesday_20.html
Is that the one you've alluded to?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM, TF JADE wrote:
I might work you into a position where you can get a tug or two in.
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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I considered the possibility that you're a reporter since almost everything in the above string, and our contact, would fit that also. In that case, I would merely switch my picture choice to image two. Why I didn't go with that second photo when I sent you the link is the media setting that day didn’t change much, so it would be hard for someone to know if he’d been parked there minutes before or hours after I captured that scene. Seems the comings and goings of Tac members would be a far easier way to pinpoint time in respect to placement.
However, none of this matters since my reason for asking had nothing to do with my guess being correct or not. ;)
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
If you MUST know...... Appomattox.
Where's the risk? So color me curios? Heck.. If you tried hard you could probably find my IP address all over your web stats. (It do record IPs from visitors don't it?)
Who said mysterious? But truth be told.... I like being the strong silent mysterious type... Stealthy goes good with my personality (and work).
And while it may be true that now I am messing with you... that was not my initial intent... turns out you are fun to, and can take a little messing with.
No harm no foul right?
from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:13 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
AXE... no no no... that's nasty in itself... armani (but I don't use it much lately)Armani, eh? You must get paid well.
If you MUST know...... Appomattox.Nifty.
Where's the risk?I dunno. I think (if you are an officer) your fellow Boys In Blue would frown on you contacting "the enemy" via email. S'pose you could justify it to them somehow though, if you had to.
So color me curios? Heck.. If you tried hard you could probably find my IP address all over your web stats. (It do record IPs from visitors don't it?)Oh, it does much more than that. ;)
[...]
No harm no foul right?Exactly.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:33 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Armani cologne.... expensive when you consider it per ounce. I'd do His suits if I were made 'o money.
Who said you are the enemy? Are you? I'd not made that conclusion...
I am curious about what makes you tick.
I just don't know how long I can keep your attention in order to figure you... like a cat getting bored with a bug...
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:23 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:33 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Armani cologne.... expensive when you consider it per ounce. I'd doWow. Where do you go that you would wear his suits?
His suits if I were made 'o money.
Who said you are the enemy? Are you? I'd not made that conclusion...Well, now, I was satisfied enough that you're maybe in Law Enforcement up until you said that.
Tell me something: what is it about nearly having your picture taken that bothers you?
I am curious about what makes you tick.Curiosity is a beautiful thing.
I just don't know how long I can keep your attention in order to figure you... like a cat getting bored with a bug...Seems to me an active bug would never bore a cat.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:48 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:23 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Wow. Where do you go that you would wear his suits?Court?
Actually I don't dress that well for court but I do clean up ok and I do like being able to every once and a while.
Well, now, I was satisfied enough that you're maybe in Law Enforcement up until you said that.Just kidding actually... I do have opinions about what you are doing.... but I also see something and someone very clever... so I'm curious.
Tell me something: what is it about nearly having your picture taken that bothers you?Well... it wouldn't do for everyone to know what I do because often times, I need to NOT be known in order to be effective. Best case it's awkward.... worst case I could be dead. I don't like either.
Curiosity is a beautiful thing.And killed the cat... (to many feline metaphors going on ... )
Seems to me an active bug would never bore a cat.But it also gets it's legs pulled off one by one!
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:20 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:48 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Actually I don't dress that well for court but I do clean up ok and I do like being able to every once and a while.I get ya.
Just kidding actually... I do have opinions about what you are doing.... but I also see something and someone very clever... so I'm curious.Opinions? Do share.
Well... it wouldn't do for everyone to know what I do because often times, I need to NOT be known in order to be effective. Best case it's awkward.... worst case I could be dead. I don't like either.How often is it really that an officer loses his life simply because someone recognizes him as an officer?
And killed the cat... (to many feline metaphors going on ... )As long as neither of us coughs up a hairball, we're doing okay.
But it also gets it's legs pulled off one by one!Depends on the type of bug.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:36 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:20 PM, TF JADE wrote:
I get ya.You appear to be a bit of a clothes horse yourself.... at least you've mentioned things about clothing that seem to indicate you have a little more regard/knowledge than the average bear. Either that or it's normal girl stuff and it just looks like more because... most guys (and cops in particular) do NOT have the clothes sense God gave a penguin.
Know how to spot a cop in a crowded room? He's the idiot that's wearing a short sleeved shirt with a tie.
Opinions? Do share.Not yet.... they are still forming... I did let on that I think you are clever though...
How often is it really that an officer loses his life simply because someone recognizes him as an officer?Not often. But dead is dead and it only takes once. More often it'd be the awkward/non-effective and even that is a pain in the ass. We (my group) often state that "No case is worth getting hurt/killed over."
Lethal Weapon was a fantasy... but it has actually happened that nutcases have gone after cops at home and thus involved the family. For a beat cop, that's par .... his identity is out there. For others... not being common knowledge is part of what they do.
As long as neither of us coughs up a hairball, we're doing okay.aaack! I hate that.
Depends on the type of bug.And the cat.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:36 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Know how to spot a cop in a crowded room? He's the idiot that's wearing a short sleeved shirt with a tie.What do you call a cop wearing a short-sleeved shirt with a tie? Married.
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We (my group) often state that "No case is worth getting hurt/killed over."That's a shame. I think every case should be worth getting hurt/killed over. (Not exactly, but you probably know what I mean.) Honestly, when did an officer's job become just getting home safe every night?
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And the cat.Playful little thing, aren't ya?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, TF JADE wrote:
What do you call a cop wearing a short-sleeved shirt with a tie? Married.Ya think?... I always thought the married ones dressed better because she'd go... "You are NOT going out looking like that, are you?!"
That's a shame. I think every case should be worth getting hurt/killed over. (Not exactly, but you probably know what I mean.) Honestly, when did an officer's job become just getting home safe every night?Nope.. it's not like that... If someone REALLY needs a cop... the good ones will lay it all on the line for them. Cops and Firefighters.... they run toward danger while everyone else is running away. When I said "no case" we are talking about your run of the mill criminal stuff. Even murder. The victim is dead. A cop getting hurt or killed will not bring them back.
Playful little thing, aren't ya?Playful.... Moi? Non! ;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
Ya think?... I always thought the married ones dressed better because she'd go... "You are NOT going out looking like that, are you?!"Or maybe married guys figure they have no one to impress -- especially not their nagging wives -- so they don't put as much effort into themselves.
[...]
If someone REALLY needs a cop...Who decides the "really" part -- the cop?
[...]
The victim is dead. A cop getting hurt or killed will not bring them back.An officer can play that card all the way to not exerting himself period. After all, nothing will bring back a dead victim.
By the way, tenth picture down:
http://iheartejade.blogspot.com/2010/01/wordless-wednesday_20.html
Is that the one you've alluded to?
Playful.... Moi? Non! ;)Too bad. And here I was all thinking I might get a leg or two off you yet.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Or maybe married guys figure they have no one to impress -- especially not their nagging wives -- so they don't put as much effort into themselves.Well I don't dress to impress... I like to dress well... classically. right now it's broad wale corduroy Jacket with a scarf...
Who decides the "really" part -- the cop?Well yes and no. If someone is in mortal danger, there's not a very long or complicated decision tree wouldn't you say?
By the way, tenth picture down:How do you figure... (10th pic)
Too bad. And here I was all thinking I might get a leg or two off you yet.Oh I'm playful all right.... But being as I just "met" you, I'm still being polite.
I might work you into a position where you can get a tug or two in.
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
Well I don't dress to impress... I like to dress well... classically. right now it's broad wale corduroy Jacket with a scarf...Classic is nice.
[...]
How do you figure... (10th pic)From the info you provided, which, granted, may or may not be true: offices… unusual place… Appomattox… ambiguous “more vehicles” statement… implication of VSP with above-average duties. Plus I know VSP park in specific locations. Those led me to picture ten. Of course you might not be VSP but other Law Enforcement instead; nonetheless, because of the parking fact, I would still go with that same photo.
I considered the possibility that you're a reporter since almost everything in the above string, and our contact, would fit that also. In that case, I would merely switch my picture choice to image two. Why I didn't go with that second photo when I sent you the link is the media setting that day didn’t change much, so it would be hard for someone to know if he’d been parked there minutes before or hours after I captured that scene. Seems the comings and goings of Tac members would be a far easier way to pinpoint time in respect to placement.
However, none of this matters since my reason for asking had nothing to do with my guess being correct or not. ;)
Oh I'm playful all right.... But being as I just "met" you, I'm still being polite.Kinky.
I might work you into a position where you can get a tug or two in.
Every Piece Of Information Helps
I have to admit the guy was entertaining, energizing. He’d certainly gotten my curiosity juices flowing. Now more than ever I wanted to find out who I was “talking” to. It’s not fair he knows who I am but he gets to be an enigma to me. Before I’d composed my last email to him, I’d, after a great deal of thought, finally concocted a method which might bring me that much closer to identifying him.
Like many other bloggers use on their sites, I have a web tracker installed on I HeArTE JADE that provides real-time data and detailed analysis of ‘net visitors. It’s not like it supplies the precise names, addresses, and phone numbers, of people -- wouldn’t that be handy? -- but it does show the distinct pages they view and gives their general city and state locations.
I’d already assumed my “Wordless Wednesday” entry was the one that incited him to write to me in the first place. Plus it was something I’d published many weeks ago, thus not likely to be a post that just any person would randomly cyber-land on at this point. So if I sent him a direct link to it via email, and he clicked on it… Voila! More info about him for me!
I kept an ultra-close eye on my stats page after I’d dropped the URL to him in Gmail. Sure enough, presumably oblivious to my plan, he followed it. Good boy! I was delighted.
I still may’ve not known who he was. But at least I knew where he was.
In disguised reference I even bragged about it to him.
Like many other bloggers use on their sites, I have a web tracker installed on I HeArTE JADE that provides real-time data and detailed analysis of ‘net visitors. It’s not like it supplies the precise names, addresses, and phone numbers, of people -- wouldn’t that be handy? -- but it does show the distinct pages they view and gives their general city and state locations.
I’d already assumed my “Wordless Wednesday” entry was the one that incited him to write to me in the first place. Plus it was something I’d published many weeks ago, thus not likely to be a post that just any person would randomly cyber-land on at this point. So if I sent him a direct link to it via email, and he clicked on it… Voila! More info about him for me!
I kept an ultra-close eye on my stats page after I’d dropped the URL to him in Gmail. Sure enough, presumably oblivious to my plan, he followed it. Good boy! I was delighted.
I still may’ve not known who he was. But at least I knew where he was.
In disguised reference I even bragged about it to him.
Re: Just being Honest....
from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:35 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM, TF JADE wrote:
And here I was enjoying how civil things have been and you have to be insulting... (Tongue firmly in cheek)
I'd type more but, I'm getting my gear together for a trip... Multihour stints on airplanes tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it.
Don't think a lack of reply is lack of interest in our conversation... I don't know what my connectivity situation will be over the next few days.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:35 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
Thanks for the heads up. Otherwise obviously I might've been devastated, just sitting here, waiting, waiting, waiting, reloading gmail again and again, asking myself why ohmigod why did he stop writing to me?!
Yeah.
Have a safe trip.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Intrigued... Hmmmm flattery will get you everywhere.
Yes... modest and polite... that's me.... I stand when people approach my table when I'm out somewhere... I Hold the door and chair for ladies... I've been told I'm very old fashioned in that way. Thus the polite indication of (the possible) absence from a conversation. It's an Internet etiquette thing that I think is required....
and... you know you have been interested to see the messages coming your way when they pop up.
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Well it turns out that the dearth of Internet connectivity during my travels (so far) is not what I expected. They have wi-fi on the aircraft now and I'm just the type to take advantage of it to keep from being bored out of my skull. I do have the good sense to have reading material both on the computer and in my bag though.
On to todays items....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM, TF JADE wrote:
6'1"+
Brn Brn
210
Doesn't scare small children
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:38 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
[...]
I don't think I've ever written it anywhere but I do say it often: perfect age for a man to be is 45 -- old enough to be established, young enough to not be old.
Toys can be rebuilt, refurbished, regifted, reinvented, restitched, rewired, and repaired -- among other things. There is simply no excuse for tossing one away.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Perfect example, I recently reconnected with a high school friend and, although I knew she was smart, it was nice to see that she could hold her own with the written word. It would have been depressing if she were one of these, "how r u" types. (Not that my grammar and punctuation are perfect, but I do try.)
to TF JADE
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:35 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Classic is nice.I clean up ok....
[...]I considered the possibility that you're a reporter[...]REPORTER! HOW INSULTING! Don't I come across as more intelligent than that?
And here I was enjoying how civil things have been and you have to be insulting... (Tongue firmly in cheek)
Kinky.Yes but that's beyond the current bounds of conversation.
I'd type more but, I'm getting my gear together for a trip... Multihour stints on airplanes tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it.
Don't think a lack of reply is lack of interest in our conversation... I don't know what my connectivity situation will be over the next few days.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:35 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
I clean up ok....You're really going for modest? Too cute.
REPORTER! HOW INSULTING!Then I will be more direct: are you a member of Law Enforcement?
Don't I come across as more intelligent than that?You do come across as intelligent. And charming. Which makes me suspicious. And intrigued.
And here I was enjoying how civil things have been and you have to beinsulting... (Tongue firmly in cheek)Well I don't have to be insulting, but occasionally it is fun.
[...]
Don't think a lack of reply is lack of interest in our conversation...[...]
Thanks for the heads up. Otherwise obviously I might've been devastated, just sitting here, waiting, waiting, waiting, reloading gmail again and again, asking myself why ohmigod why did he stop writing to me?!
Yeah.
Have a safe trip.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM, TF JADE wrote:
You're really going for modest? Too cute.I am modest... yet with a healthy ego at the same time. I'm a walking contradiction at times.
Then I will be more direct: are you a member of Law Enforcement?Yes.
You do come across as intelligent. And charming. Which makes me suspicious. And intrigued.Suspicious ??? of what? Lil' ol' me? I already told you what my motivations were... shouldn't be anything to be suspicious about. ;)
Intrigued... Hmmmm flattery will get you everywhere.
Well I don't have to be insulting, but occasionally it is fun.I prefer calling it snarky... Insulting can be a bit mean at times.
Thanks for the heads up. Otherwise obviously I might've been devastated, just sitting here, waiting, waiting, waiting, reloading gmail again and again, asking myself why ohmigod why did he stop writing to me?!Oh I KNEW you'd react (or act) that way! ;)
Yeah.
Have a safe trip.
Yes... modest and polite... that's me.... I stand when people approach my table when I'm out somewhere... I Hold the door and chair for ladies... I've been told I'm very old fashioned in that way. Thus the polite indication of (the possible) absence from a conversation. It's an Internet etiquette thing that I think is required....
and... you know you have been interested to see the messages coming your way when they pop up.
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
Suspicious ??? of what? Lil' ol' me? I already told you what my motivations were... shouldn't be anything to be suspicious about. ;)You have a healthy ego; I have a healthy suspicion. Both, I'm sure, are there for good reason.
Intrigued... Hmmmm flattery will get you everywhere.We shall see.
I prefer calling it snarky... Insulting can be a bit mean at times.Funny how people view even minute things so differently. I consider snarkiness unnecessary meanness. Insults are reserved for the deserving, thereby supposed to be mean.
Oh I KNEW you'd react (or act) that way! ;)I'm the epitome of predictability, what can I say?
Yes... modest and polite... that's me.... I stand when people approach my table when I'm out somewhere... I Hold the door and chair for ladies... I've been told I'm very old fashioned in that way. Thus the polite indication of (the possible) absence from a conversation. It's an Internet etiquette thing that I think is required....How old are you? (Psst... it's better to admit you don't want to tell me than it is to fib your age -- no doubt the polite you understands.)
and... you know you have been interested to see the messages coming your way when they pop up.Absolutely. Nothing generates interest quite like a new toy. ;)
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Well it turns out that the dearth of Internet connectivity during my travels (so far) is not what I expected. They have wi-fi on the aircraft now and I'm just the type to take advantage of it to keep from being bored out of my skull. I do have the good sense to have reading material both on the computer and in my bag though.
On to todays items....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM, TF JADE wrote:
You have a healthy ego; I have a healthy suspicion. Both, I'm sure, are there for good reason.But what is there to be suspicious of? My motives? I already stated that I was curious about what makes to tick. Truth be told... I find you very clever.
Funny how people view even minute things so differently. I consider snarkiness unnecessary meanness. Insults are reserved for the deserving, thereby supposed to be mean.Yes... different perspectives are a part of the human condition. No one ever sees things the same way you do be it physical reality or other more esoteric things.
I'm the epitome of predictability, what can I say?Oh I don't agree.... I just suspected based on how much of you I've read. I have that advantage over you in that I know your "voice" for lack of a better term.
How old are you? (Psst... it's better to admit you don't want to tell me than it is to fib your age -- no doubt the polite you understands.)1963 (but well preserved)
6'1"+
Brn Brn
210
Doesn't scare small children
Absolutely. Nothing generates interest quite like a new toy. ;)And thence to be tossed away.... back to the back of the closet once the interest has wained... oh the horror of the cast of toy.
;)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:38 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
They have wi-fi on the aircraft now and I'm just the type to take advantage of it to keep from being bored out of my skull.Smart people never get bored.
[...]
But what is there to be suspicious of? My motives? I already stated that I was curious about what makes to tick. Truth be told... I find you very clever.You think you will figure out via email what makes me tick? Yeah lemme know how that works out for ya.
Yes... different perspectives are a part of the human condition.One of my many goals in life is to know what other people's perspectives are going to be before they reveal them.
Oh I don't agree.... I just suspected based on how much of you I've read. I have that advantage over you in that I know your "voice" for lack of a better term.You just keep writing; I want an even playing field.
1963 (but well preserved)Yum.
6'1"+
Brn Brn
210
Doesn't scare small children
I don't think I've ever written it anywhere but I do say it often: perfect age for a man to be is 45 -- old enough to be established, young enough to not be old.
And thence to be tossed away.... back to the back of the closet once the interest has wained... oh the horror of the cast of toy.[...]
Toys can be rebuilt, refurbished, regifted, reinvented, restitched, rewired, and repaired -- among other things. There is simply no excuse for tossing one away.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Smart people never get bored.Exactly... That's why I'm always prepared. Either that, or I know how to make my own fun. (hmmm... there's a bad joke in there what with me being male and all.....)
You think you will figure out via email what makes me tick? Yeah lemme know how that works out for ya.Well it depends on which gears I'm talking about. If it's just your interest in JADE or why and how you are motivated, then it's very possible. The only way into someones mind is via their words. Spoken is better for some communications (there is so much information in body language and the nuance of speech etc) but the written word also holds it's share of information, both intended and not.
Perfect example, I recently reconnected with a high school friend and, although I knew she was smart, it was nice to see that she could hold her own with the written word. It would have been depressing if she were one of these, "how r u" types. (Not that my grammar and punctuation are perfect, but I do try.)
You just keep writing; I want an even playing field.Gleaning anything from my writing?
1963 (but well preserved)You do have your tastes (and appitites), don't you.
6'1"+
Brn Brn
210
Doesn't scare small children
Yum.
I don't think I've ever written it anywhere but I do say it often: perfect age for a man to be is 45 -- old enough to be established, young enough to not be old.I've heard it as, "Old enough to know how, still young enough to get it done."
Toys can be rebuilt, refurbished, re gifted, reinvented, restitched, rewired, and repaired -- among other things. There is simply no excuse for tossing one away.Re-gifted.... Funny.... I've always said....I wouldn't mind being shared.
Details, Details, Details
When I went to reply to his latest correspondence to me, I noticed my last email to him had apparently hit the engaging man’s Inbox, according to Gmail, at “2:38 PM.” The clock on my computer and my microwave are perfectly synchronized; they both read 4:30 PM. Hmm… that’s weird. I know time flies an’ all but surely two whole hours haven’t passed since I wrote him. I opened the email of mine he was quoting and saw, again according to Gmail, its sent time was “3:38 PM.”
He must not have been kidding about traveling somewhere. Wherever he was, it was a time zone an hour earlier than mine.
Neither did it escape my attention he’d gotten bolder with his flirtatiousness. Well, he had inferred I found the description he gave of himself attractive-sounding. Tall, dark, and handsome? Yep, that what does it for me. The sole other thing that appeals to me, not included in the romantic cliché, is “older” -- and born-in-1963 darling “DJ Vox” had covered that as well.
Honestly, he’d been giving me prime chances to intentionally stroke his ego; I’d wagered he’d, true to male form, soak it up without thinking of ulterior motives -- mine only being, at the moment, learning who he was. I felt he too had been dishing out adulatory treatment; what he might not have known is that I do think about it and habitually view palavering in my direction as an insincere farce. Simply put: flattery doesn’t work on me. On the other hand, ludic behavior without serious intentions I am all for. And Oh. My. God. was he uber-excellent at being playful! I was tremendously enraptured by our banter.
He must not have been kidding about traveling somewhere. Wherever he was, it was a time zone an hour earlier than mine.
Neither did it escape my attention he’d gotten bolder with his flirtatiousness. Well, he had inferred I found the description he gave of himself attractive-sounding. Tall, dark, and handsome? Yep, that what does it for me. The sole other thing that appeals to me, not included in the romantic cliché, is “older” -- and born-in-1963 darling “DJ Vox” had covered that as well.
Honestly, he’d been giving me prime chances to intentionally stroke his ego; I’d wagered he’d, true to male form, soak it up without thinking of ulterior motives -- mine only being, at the moment, learning who he was. I felt he too had been dishing out adulatory treatment; what he might not have known is that I do think about it and habitually view palavering in my direction as an insincere farce. Simply put: flattery doesn’t work on me. On the other hand, ludic behavior without serious intentions I am all for. And Oh. My. God. was he uber-excellent at being playful! I was tremendously enraptured by our banter.
Re: Just being Honest....
from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
[...]
[...]
Anyone who's read I HeArTE JADE and paid a smidgen of attention would know my preferences. The one JADE guy I describe as hot is in his 50s -- swoon! -- and their other officers I've declared sexy are every bit over 40.
You've already proven you think you know how to manipulate me. ;)
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
I am now roughly 3k farther west than I was this morning... my body
thinks it's midnight but the clock says otherwise.
Airline traval sucks. I remember when it was actually fun.
Anyway.... we continue....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM, TF JADE wrote:
(edit: ok after looking over this I may have to change my tune....It started out as wondering why you do what you do.... but I'm strangely enjoying the back and forth. Things could evolved I guess...)
etc.
:)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
[...]
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM, TF JADE wrote:
Truth is... myself and the guys I work with have protected more peoples rights than anyone would realize. We regularly get requests that we have to point the requester down the proper path because what they want to do is not proper. There are some good guys yanno.
As for your case... I've had to argue your side before in the area of first amendment rights and what they can or can not do about you. Never in an official capacity mind you. Just kicking it around in the office kind of thing. In other words.... I'm not on your case (in any manner).
This contact and communication is totally personal and out of my curiosity.
I'm SUPER polite... that side of me only comes out if it's provoked (and provoked not in a bad sense). It only comes out when engaged with someone of a like mind and who understands it.
That part of me is always bubbling under the surface so with the right person I'm always double entendre etc. Some would say "typical male" except that I'm very good at suppressing it when it's not appropriate.
All I think I said was somehting about a cat playing with a bug..... what's flirty about that?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:08 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Good gawd. I fell asleep at 2AM, got up at 5AM. I've been in five different counties, two different courts, taken pictures of police, did some genuine sleuthing, hiked for dang near three hours in freezing rain, met with two people, drove a gazillion miles, and sporadically worked on this reply to you. So if you find flaws, I apol... ah, screw it, I don't really care. ;)
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
I have an awesome and, I think, hilarious defense planned, which I will now play out in April since today the (absent) officer requested a continuance. I won't win -- Judges nearly never go against the testimony of a policeman, as I'm sure you're aware -- but I cannot pass up such a fabulous opportunity to have some fun in a courtroom.
[...]
Probably way more than you wanted to know. Hahaha...
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:43 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Pictures huh.... I guess I have to check the blog again....
yep.. it's kinda tough... the newer DL doesn't have descriptors on it so the boys have to guess.... I can see how that would be a problem
I try, in all my online dealings, to be and say pretty much what I'd do in person. I don't see a reason to not be polite even if it is a situation where you are totally anonymous. That anonymity is bringing out the worst in some people.
to DJ Vox
date Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
Well it depends on which gears I'm talking about. If it's just your interest in JADE or why and how you are motivated, then it's very possible.No way is it possible. And why would you care about my interest in JADE specifically? I don't believe you'd bother with me in the least if it was just my interest in them.
[...]
the written word also holds it's share of information, both intended and not.True. But what one takes from it might not be what one was given. Does that make sense?
[...]
Gleaning anything from my writing?You tell me.
You do have your tastes (and appitites), don't you.Don't you?
Anyone who's read I HeArTE JADE and paid a smidgen of attention would know my preferences. The one JADE guy I describe as hot is in his 50s -- swoon! -- and their other officers I've declared sexy are every bit over 40.
You've already proven you think you know how to manipulate me. ;)
I've heard it as, "Old enough to know how, still young enough to get it done."When put that way, there's a sexual implication. My way lacks that meaning, I think (I hope).
Re-gifted.... Funny.... I've always said....I wouldn't mind being shared.Oh my. I'm not even gonna touch that one.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
I am now roughly 3k farther west than I was this morning... my body
thinks it's midnight but the clock says otherwise.
Airline traval sucks. I remember when it was actually fun.
Anyway.... we continue....
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM, TF JADE wrote:
No way is it possible. And why would you care about my interest in JADE specifically? I don't believe you'd bother with me in the least if it was just my interest in them.Ok, we might have to start over then. I actually do not have any other motivation than finding out why. Now I'll grant you that I see someone who is smarter than the average bear (kindred spirits so to speak) but I have no untoward motives. If there were any, what could they be?
(edit: ok after looking over this I may have to change my tune....It started out as wondering why you do what you do.... but I'm strangely enjoying the back and forth. Things could evolved I guess...)
True. But what one takes from it might not be what one was giving. Does that make sense?that makes perfect sense. It's terribly easy to be miss understood talking with someone in person. It's even more so when "speaking" like this. I try to be very careful both in sending and receiving.
Gleaning anything from my writing?Why the question for a question? I'm interested in what YOU think, not what I think.
You tell me.
You do have your tastes (and appetites), don't you.And that was not a question. It was a statement of fact... Just letting on that I have read and do think I know a few things about you.
Don't you?
You've already proven you think you know how to manipulate me. ;)Manipulate? ME? noooooo. At least not in any way that you would not like. A little friendly chit chat... give and take yes. But I'm not the manipulative type.... at least not with someone I consider my intellectually equal or even better. Some of the morons I have to work with... that's another matter... sometimes I manipulate them for their own good.
When put that way, there's a sexual implication. My way lacks that meaning, I think (I hope).I'll have to go back and look but I think you are correct. Mine is all inclusive. Counts for not only sexuality but other things.... like properly driving a nail or changing the tire on your motorcycle
etc.
Oh my. I'm not even gonna touch that one.You started it.
:)
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
I am now roughly 3k farther west than I was this morning... my body thinks it's midnight but the clock says otherwise.I have to do a little traveling myself today, 'bout 200 miles worth. All because an officer called me fat! What do you make of that?
[...]
Ok, we might have to start over then. I actually do not have any other motivation than finding out why. Now I'll grant you that I see someone who is smarter than the average bear (kindred spirits so to speak) but I have no untoward motives. If there were any, what could they be?One motive could be to leave me dead in a field with a bullet hole in my head thus ending my reign as a JADEist. Not likely; but you didn't ask for likely, you asked for "could."
(edit: ok after looking over this I may have to change my tune....It started out as wondering why you do what you do.... but I'm strangely enjoying the back and forth.Verbal volley I am good at. I am even better at one-liners but that's more of a you-have-to-experience-it-in-person thing.
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Why the question for a question? I'm interested in what YOU think, not what I think.All right then; if you really want to know, I believe I've harvested a significant enough amount of information from your writing.
And that was not a question. It was a statement of fact... Just letting on that I have read and do think I know a few things about you.If all you have to judge me by is my web site then I venture to say you don't know much and most of what you think you know about me is wrong. I say that not with defiance, but with a melancholic sigh at the end.
Manipulate? ME? noooooo. At least not in any way that you would not like. A little friendly chit chat... give and take yes. But I'm not the manipulative type....Likable manipulation, huh? How very chiropractical.
at least not with someone I consider my intellectually equal or even better.Thrilled to know you find me on par with someone so bright.
Some of the morons I have to work with... that's another matter... sometimes I manipulate them for their own good.It never ceases to amaze me the contempt policemen have for people they work with. Do you ever wonder if your associates put you in their "moron" category?
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You started it.Nuh-uh. 'Twas you, with all your winks and flirtatious talk of... cats.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:01 AM, TF JADE wrote:
I have to do a little traveling myself today, 'bout 200 miles worth. All because an officer called me fat! What do you make of that?what's the story there? And how rude of him to mention such a thing... I thought all those southern boys were brought up better than that.
One motive could be to leave me dead in a field with a bullet hole in my head thus ending my reign as a JADEist. Not likely; but you didn't ask for likely, you asked for "could."Nothing could be farther from my thoughts. I'm surprised you took it that far in your mind but then again I see your point about perspectives.
Truth is... myself and the guys I work with have protected more peoples rights than anyone would realize. We regularly get requests that we have to point the requester down the proper path because what they want to do is not proper. There are some good guys yanno.
As for your case... I've had to argue your side before in the area of first amendment rights and what they can or can not do about you. Never in an official capacity mind you. Just kicking it around in the office kind of thing. In other words.... I'm not on your case (in any manner).
This contact and communication is totally personal and out of my curiosity.
Verbal volley I am good at. I am even better at one-liners but that's more of a you-have-to-experience-it-in-person thing.I understand... nothing beats in person for conversation... (Notice I'm being more careful to qualify)
All right then; if you really want to know, I believe I've harvested a significant enough amount of information from your writing.Such as.... ????
If all you have to judge me by is my web site then I venture to say you don't know much and most of what you think you know about me is wrong. I say that not with defiance, but with a melancholic sigh at the end.I'm not judging you but I can make a few careful observations about what your personality might be like. For instance it was clear that you like the more mature guys... I also infer a healthy sex drive... nothing wrong with that.... there are very few ways to interpret "yum" and some of the other things you've said on your site other than a healthy interested in that which interests you. It is one of our primary drives.
Thrilled to know you find me on par with someone so bright.Me so bright? I don't actually think I'm the sharpest knife. I'm not even sure that I'm actually keeping up with you, but it's fun trying.
It never ceases to amaze me the contempt policemen have for people they work with. Do you ever wonder if your associates put you in their "moron" category?No they don't. I'm the answer guy. They would call me other things but moron is not one of them.
Nuh-uh. 'Twas you, with all your winks and flirtatious talk of... cats.Flirtation??? ME?? Nope.. not me.
I'm SUPER polite... that side of me only comes out if it's provoked (and provoked not in a bad sense). It only comes out when engaged with someone of a like mind and who understands it.
That part of me is always bubbling under the surface so with the right person I'm always double entendre etc. Some would say "typical male" except that I'm very good at suppressing it when it's not appropriate.
All I think I said was somehting about a cat playing with a bug..... what's flirty about that?
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:08 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
Good gawd. I fell asleep at 2AM, got up at 5AM. I've been in five different counties, two different courts, taken pictures of police, did some genuine sleuthing, hiked for dang near three hours in freezing rain, met with two people, drove a gazillion miles, and sporadically worked on this reply to you. So if you find flaws, I apol... ah, screw it, I don't really care. ;)
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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what's the story there?I got a ticket for "failure to obey highway sign." Later I noticed the officer had written "150" under weight then crossed it out and wrote "140." Even if I strapped two twenty pound bags of cat food to my hips, I still wouldn't weigh 150!
I have an awesome and, I think, hilarious defense planned, which I will now play out in April since today the (absent) officer requested a continuance. I won't win -- Judges nearly never go against the testimony of a policeman, as I'm sure you're aware -- but I cannot pass up such a fabulous opportunity to have some fun in a courtroom.
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Nothing could be farther from my thoughts. I'm surprised you took it that far in your mind but then again I see your point about perspectives.I was mostly laying on the drama but, seriously, I have gotten some explicit and graphic threats over this I HeArTE JADE stuff.
Truth is... myself and the guys I work with have protected more peoples rights than anyone would realize. We regularly get requests that we have to point the requester down the proper path because what they want to do is not proper.Ho-hum. Everyone thinks their cause is noble.
There are some good guys yanno.Ino.
As for your case... I've had to argue your side before in the area of first amendment rights and what they can or can not do about you. Never in an official capacity mind you. Just kicking it around in the office kind of thing. In other words.... I'm not on your case (in any manner).Nobody knows my side. You might've argued for rights in general though, and used me as an excuse, I'll give you that.
This contact and communication is totally personal and out of my curiosity.Not what you expected, is it?
I understand... nothing beats in person for conversation... (Notice I'm being more careful to qualify)Unnecessary. Save your carefulness for someone who matters.
All right then; if you really want to know, I believe I've harvested a significant enough amount of information from your writing.I'm sorry, sir, that information is classified.
Such as.... ????
I'm not judging you but I can make a few careful observations about what your personality might be like. For instance it was clear that you like the more mature guys... I also infer a healthy sex drive... nothing wrong with that.... there are very few ways to interpret "yum" and some of the other things you've said on your site other than a healthy interested in that which interests you. It is one of our primary drives.Your inference about my sex drive would be incorrect. I guess it's safe to say a traumatic event pretty much eradicated my interest in sex. That doesn't mean I don't find certain men attractive -- obviously. And I do know how to be sexual. But I'd take intellectual stimulation over physical contact any day.
Probably way more than you wanted to know. Hahaha...
Me so bright? I don't actually think I'm the sharpest knife. I'm not even sure that I'm actually keeping up with you, but it's fun trying.Fun for you and me both then.
No they don't. I'm the answer guy. They would call me other things but moron is not one of them.Care to explain why you're the answer guy?
Flirtation??? ME?? Nope.. not me.Sheesh! Talk about your mixed signals. I bet you confuse all the girls.
I'm SUPER polite... that side of me only comes out if it's provoked (and provoked not in a bad sense). It only comes out when engaged with someone of a like mind and who understands it.
That part of me is always bubbling under the surface so with the right person I'm always double entendre etc. Some would say "typical male" except that I'm very good at suppressing it when it's not appropriate.
All I think I said was somehting about a cat playing with a bug..... what's flirty about that?Hell if I know; it's your metaphor.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:43 PM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, TF JADE wrote:
Good gawd. I fell asleep at 2AM, got up at 5AM. I've been in five different counties, two different courts, taken pictures of police, did some genuine sleuthing, hiked for dang near three hours in freezing rain, met with two people, drove a gazillion miles, and sporadically worked on this reply to you. So if you find flaws, I apol... ah, screw it, I don't really care. ;)Oh don't worry.... I read typo... Heck... I've made a few whoppers myself.
Pictures huh.... I guess I have to check the blog again....
I got a ticket for "failure to obey highway sign." Later I noticed the officer had written "150" under weight then crossed it out and wrote "140." Even if I strapped two twenty pound bags of cat food to my hips, I still wouldn't weigh 150!What was the sign?
yep.. it's kinda tough... the newer DL doesn't have descriptors on it so the boys have to guess.... I can see how that would be a problem
I have an awesome and, I think, hilarious defense planned, which I will now play out in April since today the (absent) officer requested a continuance. I won't win -- Judges nearly never go against the testimony of a policeman, as I'm sure you're aware -- but I cannot pass up such a fabulous opportunity to have some fun in a courtroom.Do tell??? That's why I asked what the sign was. There are very few of them that are worthy of a ticket most times....
I was mostly laying on the drama but, seriously, I have gotten some explicit and graphic threats over this I HeArTE JADE stuff.Yanno... to be honest.... I'm surprised but then again... thinking about some of the cops I've met in the past.... well... I shoulda known.
I try, in all my online dealings, to be and say pretty much what I'd do in person. I don't see a reason to not be polite even if it is a situation where you are totally anonymous. That anonymity is bringing out the worst in some people.
Ho-hum. Everyone thinks their cause is noble.Ok some of us have to hang our had somewhere. I'll not be shy about the fact that in my job I have prevented an innocent person from being charged with a serous crime because some cops just KNEW he was guilty as sin..... turned out not to be the case.
Ino.Yes.
Nobody knows my side. You might've argued for rights in general though, and used me as an excuse, I'll give you that.NO one knows? And yes I agree... I don't know your motivation but I've had to point out that you can do most of what you have been doing.
Not what you expected, is it?Actually I'm not sure about that. Thinking back, I'm not sure what I expected.
Unnecessary. Save your carefulness for someone who matters.Nah... I can't help it.
I'm sorry, sir, that information is classified.Yes Ma'am. I have figured out that I don't have the proper clearances.
Your inference about my sex drive would be incorrect. I guess it's safe to say a traumatic event pretty much eradicated my interest in sex. That doesn't mean I don't find certain men attractive -- obviously. And I do know how to be sexual. But I'd take intellectual stimulation over physical contact any day.Ah.... well that just goes to show you what partial information and biases will do to someones thinking. I stand corrected and understand what you are saying.
Probably way more than you wanted to know. Hahaha...Nah... Most times when I find someone interesting there's not usually a TMI point until WAY past boring folk's point.
Sheesh! Talk about your mixed signals. I bet you confuse all the girls.Nope... I usually err on the side of caution and keep it to myself. I don't let it out unless it's "proper."
Hell if I know; it's your metaphor.Good point.
This Is The Style Of Junk That Keeps Me Humble
Once again the time-stamp on the email was off; it seemed I’d sent my reply to the alleged officer three hours sooner than I actually had. Where on earth is he now? I scanned through our last several communications to find the one where he’d adverted the distance he’d gone on his trip. Aha! “Roughly 3k farther west.” Oh-kay. For some stupid inexplicable reason the gray matter in my head managed to convert that into 300 miles farther east. Well if you’re three hundred miles east of Virginia, ya’d better be a helluva swimmer ‘cause it’s right smack out in the flippin’ ocean! I ascertained this when I explored Google maps expecting to turn up the State he may be in or, you know, land. From there, my magnificent brain offered up two possibilities: either he’d lied to me or I’d been wrong about… the direction. Maybe he meant north. Yes, I know, I know, I was having a low-IQ day. Hold on; it gets even more ridiculous.
My I HeArTE JADE web tracker, which I keep close tabs on, had been informing me that during these same dates I was writing to an out-of-the-area “DJ Vox,” my site was being frequented by a visitor at a hotel in Philadelphia, PA. It just so happened that I suspected Eric Kudro, a policeman from Albemarle County I’d been Internet-ly poking fun at, was possibly in Pennsylvania for personal reasons. And it just so happened that where he supposedly was, as my query to the map program proved, was, you guessed it! Roughly 300 miles north of Virginia.
Could it be my unknown correspondent is Eric Kudro mocking me as payback? But how to find out for sure?
I logged-in to my stats page and got the name of the motor inn the Pennsylvania IP address belonged to. I typed the name of the lodge into an online telephone directory and got its number. I punched the digits into my cellular and asked the clerk who answered to put me through to Eric Kudro’s room, please. After four rings, the front desk picked up once more and inquired if I wanted to leave a message. I politely declined and said I’d call back later. I disconnected taking the fact that I’d been transferred as confirmation he was staying there.
Fortunately -- or the outcome with “Dj Vox” might’ve been very different -- I wasn’t satisfied. I waited a few hours and tried to reach Mr. Kudro again. I dialed the same place, only, this time, when my call was served, the woman declared there was no guest by that name there. Huh. Really?
We had some back-and-forth, with me furnishing particulars about Mr. Kudro and the reasons he would be in that locale and she trying to recall if anyone fit the descriptions.
Finally…
“No ma’am, I’m sorry, I don’t believe he’s here. I have no record of him checking out recently either.”
“Oh. Well. Thanks for helping, anyway.”
“But --”
“Yes?!”
“We do have another location nearby. I could give you their number if you’d like.”
“Yes! Please!”
The employee at the second overnighter also denied Mr. Kudro presence. But when I gave her the same elaborate story I’d told her associate moments ere, she recognized a detail and rattled off a familiar name -- a relative of Kudro’s. Then she broke the bad news to me: that family has departed.
Grr… I’m no better off than before. The thing was, after this entire endeavor, I was reexamining my speculation. I’d heard Eric Kudro is a flirt. But I’d gathered he’s kinda the “class clown” type. The philandering gentleman writing to me could never be mistaken for a goofball.
Before my intelligence level fell to rock-bottom and I yarfed up any more dumb things, I decided my only chance for victory was drop another unique link in an email to “DJ Vox,” hope he, as prior, took the bait, and see what panned out.
My I HeArTE JADE web tracker, which I keep close tabs on, had been informing me that during these same dates I was writing to an out-of-the-area “DJ Vox,” my site was being frequented by a visitor at a hotel in Philadelphia, PA. It just so happened that I suspected Eric Kudro, a policeman from Albemarle County I’d been Internet-ly poking fun at, was possibly in Pennsylvania for personal reasons. And it just so happened that where he supposedly was, as my query to the map program proved, was, you guessed it! Roughly 300 miles north of Virginia.
Could it be my unknown correspondent is Eric Kudro mocking me as payback? But how to find out for sure?
I logged-in to my stats page and got the name of the motor inn the Pennsylvania IP address belonged to. I typed the name of the lodge into an online telephone directory and got its number. I punched the digits into my cellular and asked the clerk who answered to put me through to Eric Kudro’s room, please. After four rings, the front desk picked up once more and inquired if I wanted to leave a message. I politely declined and said I’d call back later. I disconnected taking the fact that I’d been transferred as confirmation he was staying there.
Fortunately -- or the outcome with “Dj Vox” might’ve been very different -- I wasn’t satisfied. I waited a few hours and tried to reach Mr. Kudro again. I dialed the same place, only, this time, when my call was served, the woman declared there was no guest by that name there. Huh. Really?
We had some back-and-forth, with me furnishing particulars about Mr. Kudro and the reasons he would be in that locale and she trying to recall if anyone fit the descriptions.
Finally…
“No ma’am, I’m sorry, I don’t believe he’s here. I have no record of him checking out recently either.”
“Oh. Well. Thanks for helping, anyway.”
“But --”
“Yes?!”
“We do have another location nearby. I could give you their number if you’d like.”
“Yes! Please!”
The employee at the second overnighter also denied Mr. Kudro presence. But when I gave her the same elaborate story I’d told her associate moments ere, she recognized a detail and rattled off a familiar name -- a relative of Kudro’s. Then she broke the bad news to me: that family has departed.
Grr… I’m no better off than before. The thing was, after this entire endeavor, I was reexamining my speculation. I’d heard Eric Kudro is a flirt. But I’d gathered he’s kinda the “class clown” type. The philandering gentleman writing to me could never be mistaken for a goofball.
Before my intelligence level fell to rock-bottom and I yarfed up any more dumb things, I decided my only chance for victory was drop another unique link in an email to “DJ Vox,” hope he, as prior, took the bait, and see what panned out.
Re: Just being Honest....
from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:43 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
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http://iheartejade.blogspot.com/2008/10/attention_6749.html
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One of the things JADE Detective O'Donnell did, in his attempts to keep covering his ass, was fail to disclose information to his colleagues about me because, had he done so, it might've lessened their bias. That is to say he allowed them to believe things that he knew weren't correct. I don't mind since it gave -- and continues to give -- me a sweet advantage. But it mystifies me that he's done his fellow lawmen such a disservice. But surely none of that interests you, so I'll shut up about it now.
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to DJ Vox
date Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM
subject Re: Just being Honest....
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:43 PM, DJ Vox wrote:
[...]
Pictures huh.... I guess I have to check the blog again....I have a feeling you missed this:
http://iheartejade.blogspot.com/2008/10/attention_6749.html
What was the sign?STOP
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That anonymity is bringing out the worst in some people.Is it bringing out the worst or just showing how they really are?
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Yes.Look, I know there are good officers. I know there are deceptive, vindictive, foul ones, too. I also know that those in Law Enforcement have a habit of crooning the former and denying the latter. If y'all do admit there are bad ones, it's almost always in a vague, generic, sort of way.
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NO one knows?Well, aside from me no one does.
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Thinking back, I'm not sure what I expected.Oh. Come. On. By your own admission you first used an irregular email address to contact me in anticipation of me being "nasty." Anyhow, forget what you expected, the question is what do you hope to achieve by our communication now?
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Yes Ma'am. I have figured out that I don't have the proper clearances.Quick learner -- impressive!
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Ah.... well that just goes to show you what partial information and biases will do to someones thinking.Indeed.
One of the things JADE Detective O'Donnell did, in his attempts to keep covering his ass, was fail to disclose information to his colleagues about me because, had he done so, it might've lessened their bias. That is to say he allowed them to believe things that he knew weren't correct. I don't mind since it gave -- and continues to give -- me a sweet advantage. But it mystifies me that he's done his fellow lawmen such a disservice. But surely none of that interests you, so I'll shut up about it now.
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Hell if I know; it's your metaphor.Game over?
Good point.
... Honest....
from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM
subject ... Honest....
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, TF JADE wrote:
We do try to weed them out before they get on the job but that's always going to be an imperfect prospect.
We all know a fair number of "us" that we'd get rid of in a heart murmer if we could.... unfortunately we have to wait till they show their colors to take care of it.
I'm happy to say I've been on the active end of a few of those.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Here's mine for me: Everything I'm good at nobody wants me for.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
Oops.. it was my turn wasn't it.
I've been on the couch for the past three days with one of those really crappy sinus infections ... (I know.. TMI, righ?)
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM, TF JADE wrote:
I've also saved a few guys in that, while things looked a little hinky, there turned out to be an explanation that cleared the guy.
(Yes.. I'm different... but not in the short bus way ;) )
real and what is perceived etc...
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
Tell ya what, you get to know me well enough to meet in person one day and I'll lay out the whole nine yards -- and then some -- for you. That's a perfectly fair offer, isn't it? ;)
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Someone with a background in Law Enforcement is pretty much an automatic hire in any field.
Hmm...
What exactly are you good at?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, TF JADE wrote:
me...." I'm to picky.. I doubt I'd like any job that would "just" hire me.
That's the work related stuff.....
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:13 PM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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Why why WHY are you so bent on being different? And it's as if... you find yourself different and you're proud of it, like it's sacred, or honorable, or... something. That's another reason I'd dispute your one-of-a-kindness. Those whom are unique -- truly genuinely deeply unique -- know that being different SUCKS.
Hell, you may very well be wildly unusual; I'm just sayin' I don't see it. Seriously, what is it you do that others don't do? Or don't that others do? Enlighten me.
Thanks to my estranged husband, I myself will likely never set foot inside a gym again, however, I'd highly recommend to anyone else to join or rejoin one. I consider myself lucky that my, uh, extracurriculars with Law Enforcement pretty much meet my extreme sports needs.
to TF JADE
date Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM
subject ... Honest....
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, TF JADE wrote:
STOPDidja?
Is it bringing out the worst or just showing how they really are?Good point. I'll have to mull that one over.
Look, I know there are good officers. I know there are deceptive, vindictive, foul ones, too. I also know that those in Law Enforcement have a habit of crooning the former and denying the latter. If y'all do admit there are bad ones, it's almost always in a vague, generic, sort of way.Not always... In fact I was pointing out to someone yesterday that in the LE community you have a microcosm of society. You have drunks, child molesters, thieves wife/husband beaters etc.
We do try to weed them out before they get on the job but that's always going to be an imperfect prospect.
We all know a fair number of "us" that we'd get rid of in a heart murmer if we could.... unfortunately we have to wait till they show their colors to take care of it.
I'm happy to say I've been on the active end of a few of those.
Well, aside from me no one does.And it's classified.... Don't feel like getting it off your chest either huh?
Oh. Come. On. By your own admission you first used an irregular email address to contact me in anticipation of me being "nasty." Anyhow, forget what you expected, the question is what do you hope to achieve by our communication now?Hmmmm.... it's very interesting to "see" myself through someone Else's eyes. I guess I see your point that I may have already had a bias but then again... as usual with me... I was leaving it open to NOT be ugly.
Quick learner -- impressive!In some things I hope I'm above average. At least I try.
[...]Is this something that is mentioned in the blog? If so I must have missed it. I'll have to go look.
But surely none of that interests you, so I'll shut up about it now.
Game over?You mean the cat metaphor? Yes I think we've clawed that one to death.
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
Didja?The officer says I didn't; that's all that matters. 'Til the Judge concurs with the officer, then that'll be all that matters. Hahaha... I crack me up.
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We all know a fair number of "us" that we'd get rid of in a heart murmer if we could.... unfortunately we have to wait till they show their colors to take care of it.If that's true, why do y'all turn on anyone who dares point out the rotten one? Why do you (collectively) make it so that the good guys "know better" than to speak up? Keep in mind I'm not some ignorant twit; I may not be a cop with firsthand experience, but I've gotten a hell of a lot closer look at the profession than the average person -- and I don't just mean the JADE stuff.
I'm happy to say I've been on the active end of a few of those.Expound, please?
And it's classified.... Don't feel like getting it off your chest either huh?Naw, that one's not classified. I've just given up explaining it.
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Hmmmm.... it's very interesting to "see" myself through someone Else's eyes.Wasn't necessarily how I do see you, more how it could look.
I guess I see your point that I may have already had a bias but then again... as usual with me... I was leaving it open to NOT be ugly.(Don't take this the wrong way, but) Then maybe you are like me. An optimistic pessimist! Just because you have an umbrella handy on a clear day doesn't mean you don't hope the sun will shine.
In some things I hope I'm above average. At least I try.Tsk, tsk. That does not exude self-confidence.
Here's mine for me: Everything I'm good at nobody wants me for.
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You mean the cat metaphor? Yes I think we've clawed that one to death.Eight lives left.
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
Oops.. it was my turn wasn't it.
I've been on the couch for the past three days with one of those really crappy sinus infections ... (I know.. TMI, righ?)
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM, TF JADE wrote:
Expound, please?You mean getting rid of the bad apples? Well... Because of what I do... I've gotten to assist in criminal and administrative investigations. Some of these people are gone now.
I've also saved a few guys in that, while things looked a little hinky, there turned out to be an explanation that cleared the guy.
Naw, that one's not classified. I've just given up explaining it.Why don't you try one more time? I'm a little more understanding than both most cops and men in general.
(Yes.. I'm different... but not in the short bus way ;) )
Wasn't necessarily how I do see you, more how it could look.Well we only have our own perceptions to go on. Even that which is described to us by someone else is still colored by their perceptions.. Heck... you could hurt your head talking about what is
real and what is perceived etc...
(Don't take this the wrong way, but) Then maybe you are like me. An optimistic pessimist! Just because you have an umbrella handy on a clear day doesn't mean you don't hope the sun will shine.Oh I fully understand. I always plan for the worst but I don't let that planning get in the way of getting other things done or life etc. It's like rock climbing... you safety up but if things go correctly, you never use the seat/rope.
Tsk, tsk. That does not exude self-confidence.Actually it does. I'm happy with my self that I make the effort. Remember Teddy Roosevelt's words about being "in the arena" it's not just about being there and competition... it's also about being aware and willing.
Here's mine for me: Everything I'm good at nobody wants me for.Interesting.... As I consider whatever my next gig will be.... I wonder also... I don't have a proper "trade"... I don't know if anyone will pay me for the things I'm good at.
Eight lives left.touche
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
Oops.. it was my turn wasn't it.I'm surprised you've hung on this long.
I've been on the couch for the past three days with one of those really crappy sinus infections ...:(
(I know.. TMI, righ?)When you're writing to someone who thrives on information, there's no such thing as "too much."
Why don't you try one more time?Uhhhck. For what possible reason?
I'm a little more understanding than both most cops and men in general.Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, I'm sure.
Tell ya what, you get to know me well enough to meet in person one day and I'll lay out the whole nine yards -- and then some -- for you. That's a perfectly fair offer, isn't it? ;)
(Yes.. I'm different... but not in the short bus way ;) )You are witty. Self-aware. Focused and persistent. Polite. Likable. But different? Nothing I've seen so far is indicative of that.
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It's like rock climbing... you safety up but if things go correctly, you never use the seat/rope.Is rock climbing a frequent activity of yours?
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Interesting.... As I consider whatever my next gig will be.... I wonder also... I don't have a proper "trade"... I don't know if anyone will pay me for the things I'm good at.[...]
Someone with a background in Law Enforcement is pretty much an automatic hire in any field.
Hmm...
What exactly are you good at?
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from DJ Vox
to TF JADE
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, TF JADE wrote:
I'm surprised you've hung on this long.Why? You don't think you are entertaining?
When you're writing to someone who thrives on information, there's no such thing as "too much."Interesting.... An info junkie... always needing input huh? I can relate.... sometimes I can't sleep for not being able to shut the brain off.
Uhhhck. For what possible reason?Dunno.... might help to talk about it .... getting another opinion (not saying that you NEED one)....
Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, I'm sure.cynic. :P
You are witty. Self-aware. Focused and persistent. Polite. Likable. But different? Nothing I've seen so far is indicative of that.I'm not different??? Tell the truth... are any of your emails from possible/probable law enforcement types as polite and entertaining as mine? If there's someone else out there like me, I'd sure like to know it because I sure do feel like an odd duck most of the time. (and that goes for both as a male and as a cop)
Is rock climbing a frequent activity of yours?Was.... I used to live close enough to a gym where I'd go about twice a week. Had to move farther out and the drive is a pain. I want to get back to it though.
Someone with a background in Law Enforcement is pretty much an automatic hire in any field.Um... nope.... Well... not in any field I'd find interesting.... plus, I have a tough time working for morons. It's like the old Groucho joke... "I'd not be a member of any club that would have
me...." I'm to picky.. I doubt I'd like any job that would "just" hire me.
What exactly are you good at?Moi??? Soaking up information.... making it understandable ....(I enjoy teaching)... I'm hoping to get some type of teaching gig when retirement time comes... I love watching someone get the "light bulb" moment when a concept they previously struggled over becomes clear.
That's the work related stuff.....
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from TF JADE
to DJ Vox
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:13 PM
subject Re: ... Honest....
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, DJ Vox wrote:
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You don't think you are entertaining?I could think I'm entertaining, I might actually be entertaining, but either are irrelevant. It's a matter of the length of time any given person can concentrate on any given subject or activity. Since I believe most people have the attention span of a baked biscuit -- even when it comes to things they absolutely find entertaining, or interesting, appealing, and so forth -- I expected your recipe would have the same ingredients, so to speak. Still do.
Interesting.... An info junkie... always needing input huh? I can relate.... sometimes I can't sleep for not being able to shut the brain off.You know that movie Short Circuit, from the 80s -- it's got that robot that comes to life and zealously runs around soaking up information about everything while repeating the word "input"? I'm always saying I am totally like that freakin' robot.
Dunno.... might help to talk about it ....Might "help"? "Help" what? "Help" who?
getting another opinion (not saying that you NEED one)....Well, sweetheart, looks to me like you already gave your opinion. I'm not even holding it against you. Hahaha...
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I'm not different???Three question marks? Yowsers!
Why why WHY are you so bent on being different? And it's as if... you find yourself different and you're proud of it, like it's sacred, or honorable, or... something. That's another reason I'd dispute your one-of-a-kindness. Those whom are unique -- truly genuinely deeply unique -- know that being different SUCKS.
Tell the truth... are any of your emails from possible/probable law enforcement types as polite and entertaining as mine?Truthfully: yes. Plus they keep in touch frequenter than you've. So there!
If there's someone else out there like me, I'd sure like to know it because I sure do feel like an odd duck most of the time. (and that goes for both as a male and as a cop)You feel like an odd duck most of the time. You mean just like practically everybody else does? ;)
Hell, you may very well be wildly unusual; I'm just sayin' I don't see it. Seriously, what is it you do that others don't do? Or don't that others do? Enlighten me.
Was.... I used to live close enough to a gym where I'd go about twice a week. Had to move farther out and the drive is a pain. I want to get back to it though.Physical activity is awesomesauce.
Thanks to my estranged husband, I myself will likely never set foot inside a gym again, however, I'd highly recommend to anyone else to join or rejoin one. I consider myself lucky that my, uh, extracurriculars with Law Enforcement pretty much meet my extreme sports needs.
Um... nope.... Well... not in any field I'd find interesting.... plus, I have a tough time working for morons. It's like the old Groucho joke... "I'd not be a member of any club that would have me...." I'm to picky.. I doubt I'd like any job that would "just" hire me.I didn't mean any ol' job; I meant quite the opposite. With a history of the badge under your belt you'll have your pick of work -- whatever you choose. "I was a cop" are powerful words.
Moi??? Soaking up information.... making it understandable ....(I enjoy teaching)... I'm hoping to get some type of teaching gig when retirement time comes... I love watching someone get the "light bulb" moment when a concept they previously struggled over becomes clear.And the fun stuff...? That is, aside from stepping into a sideshow to get up close views of the freak.
That's the work related stuff.....